The Bob & Kevin Show

Ep. 043 - Sidewalk Labs Quayside proposal, new Twitter and alphabet soup

In this episode, Bob & Kevin discuss a planned neighborhood in Toronto, Ontario, Canada being proposed by Alphabet (formerly Google) subsidiary, Sidewalk Labs. We discuss both the technological and non-tech innovations that are being proposed and discussed. It actually gets a little intense when Bob & Kevin discuss the application of the word 'utopia'. In addition to Quayside, we discuss new Twitter, a recent podcast from Land of the Giants (https://pca.st/V7d9) on the topic of the rise of Amazon Alexa and where the future may be. We wrap up the episode going over the list of all the companies that make up Alphabet - https://abc.xyz . We hope you enjoy and would love for you to reach out to us on https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow - let's connect!

Ep. 042 - Aliens, Area 51 and Bob Lazar on Joe Rogan #1315 - oh, and a 5 billion dollar fine for our friends at Facebook

We swear that we are not a Joe Rogan recap podcast, but this one was just too juicy to pass up for us. I mean come on... Alien technology... how can we not discuss this one! We pretty much debated the legitimacy of Bob Lazar and his amazing claims of alien technology. In addition to JRE #1315 we also referenced the documentary by Jeremy Corbell that is currently streaming on Netflix.

Anti-gravity propulsion, surfaces that turn into screens and that little machine that measures the bones in your hand - we pretty much cover it all.

We did some talk about the current season of Black Mirror, as well as, a couple of other sci-fi series. Let us know if you like what you hear or let us know what you want to hear more of - https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow

Ep. 041 - Podcast on podcasting inspired by Joe Rogan with Kevin Smith #1123 and many, many others

First... Big thanks to all our listeners - we are on the cusp of 3000 listens and we just had our best month ever in June... so thanks!

Now on to the episode notes:

Yup, we know there are about a million podcasts, by podcasters, about podcasting... but we wanted to share our thoughts on why we started, how we go about the show and what gear we use from a hardware and software perspective. Sure there is some talk about Twitter and virtue signaling in there somewhere too! Feel free to drop us a line on twitter: https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow and let us know what tech topics you want us to cover next!

"if you are interesting at all... do a podcast" - Joe Rogan

Ep. 040 - Facebook introduces Libra Crypto Currency and Kevin gets some smart home security tech installed

Well, we really wanted to have three topics for this episode, but wow, did we have too much fun discussing this new, and frightening crypto development around Facebook! We kicked off the episode discussing all the new smart home security tech that Kevin is putting into his new house and we fully intended to talk about podcast tech and other pods that we like and or dislike and why... but we totally got carried away discussing Libra. Take a look at one of the articles we were referencing https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/18/facebook-libra/ while listening and let us know how you think this will all play out! We also gave some quick hits on the block chain while discussing this new crypto currency - https://www.ibm.com/case-studies/large-financial-services-company

Ep. 039 - Technology on the moon, space travel to mars, Joe Rogan #1309 with Naval Ravikant and a bunch more!

Well, we kicked of the show this week discussing some of showbot's new skills and quickly jumped into some Artificial Intelligence discussions from a recent Joe Rogan episode with Naval Ravikant. We then talked about the potential sale of "Have I Been Pwned?" which was created by Troy Hunt. Finally (about 26 minutes in) we kicked off the show to discuss our main topic - the tech of space. As usual, Kevin had plenty of notes and was well prepped to try and trap the ever elusive Bob. Also, as per usual, Bob was ill prepared to discuss the tech of space travel, but somehow managed to hold his own (he thinks... LOL). Have a listen, let us know your thoughts on the episode and things you would like to hear us discuss more and the crap you don't want us to talk about any more.

Ep. 038 - Deep Fakes from Jordan Peele, Bill Hader, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Rogan

This week, Bob & Kevin talk deep fake technology and where they think it is headed. We open the show with audio from a very well known deep fake and begin the conversation with the ability to model audio to generate audio based deep fakes and we spiral down the rabbit hole from there. Take a listen and always feel free to reach out to us on twitter - https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow or drop us an email at comments@bobandkevinshow.com - be sure to check out the deep fakes we referenced in the show.

Jordan Peele as Barrack Obama - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ54GDm1eL0

Bill Hader deep fake with Arnold Schwarzenegger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPhUhypV27w

Joe Rogan audio deep fake - https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=DWK_iYBl8cA

and out of respect for not spreading #fakeNews - we will NOT be posting a link to the Nancy Pelosi slowed down video "fake".

Ep. 037 - Meet our new A.I. Showbot intern. Plus discussions around the Huawei Android ban, Joe Rogan #1299 with Annie Jacobsen and more

An Artificial Intelligence bot is born... well, kinda. On this week's episode Bob & Kevin introduce the world to "showbot", which is what we are calling our new digital assistant intern until you help us name them... oh, yeah and we struggle with pronouns for the cheeky little intern plenty in this episode. Guess what, you can even help contribute to "showbot" because the project is open source!

https://github.com/kgiszewski/ShowBot

We also talked some Joe Rogan and Annie Jacobsen - you know, because AI and stuff and we had to throw in a little Huawei talk as well. Let us know what you think and hit us up for some naming ideas for our new intern!

Ep. 036 - The great A.I. debate with discussion on Alan Turing's contributions to artificial intelligence, Lex Fridman's thoughts from Joe Rogan #1188 and a multitude of paradoxes

Okay, these will most likely be our most robust show notes to date... and yes we pretty much discussed each and every point below. In this episode, Bob & Kevin take sides in a friendly debate on AI and where it is going. Below, please find all our research points and feel free to call us out on social media (https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow )

Kevin's References: 

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7284/what-is-turing-complete (bob used this one too)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undecidable_problem
http://www.clockbackward.com/2009/01/18/is-math-true/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_mathematics
https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1768/could-a-paradox-kill-an-ai
https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem

And Bob's references:

https://www.livescience.com/62656-when-will-ai-be-conscious.html 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andreamorris/2018/03/13/we-need-to-talk-about-sentient-robots/#243a2c7f1b2c 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphex 
https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-build-a-self-conscious-ai-machine/ 

https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/artificial-intelligence-can-diagnose-ptsd-by-analysing-voices-study/69003250 

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/cognitive-services/language-understanding-intelligent-service/ 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/text-analytics/how-tos/text-analytics-how-to-sentiment-analysis 

https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2018/07/18/a-beginners-guide-to-ai-computer-vision-and-image-recognition/ 

https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2017/09/21/ai-should-be-treated-like-a-curious-toddler-not-a-killer-robot/ 

https://www.quantamagazine.org/clever-machines-learn-how-to-be-curious-20170919/ 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo_versus_Lee_Sedol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FOumrXyww 

Ep. 035 - Facebook in 5 years and Sam Harris "The Trouble with Facebook" recap with guest Roger McNamee

Show Notes Galore for this Episode! We started things off sharing our thoughts about a Sam Harris podcast episode where special guest Roger McNamee discussed his book "Zucked: Waking Up to the Facebook Catastrophe" You can catch that episode in full here: https://samharris.org/podcasts/152-trouble-facebook/

We also discussed what facebook might look like in the next five years. That conversation was sparked by this article: https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-15-months-of-fresh-hell/

We also had some discussion around youTube and Twitter regarding content and responsibilities sparked by a tweet from one of our favs - Tim Pool https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1118140799676506112 - of course this got us talking AI and the Achilles Paradox - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Achilles-paradox 

We wrapped the episode with a little PSA about our friends Microsoft and their apparent security risk of a browser - IE11... read more here: http://flip.it/9WMBiv

feel free to comment on this episode via twitter https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow or email the show at comments@bobandkevinshow.com 

like, subscribe... give us stars... you know the drill.

 

Ep. 034 - Carl Sagan's 1995 prediction, IOT Security and Sean Carroll and artificial intelligence stock market battles

The latest episode of the Bob & Kevin Show can best be summed up by the following quote:

"I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time — when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and whats true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), the lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance."
- Carl Sagan 1995, The Demon-Haunted World

Want to connect? Send us email at comments@bobandkevinshow.com or find us on Twitter @bobandkevinshow or on Instagram as @bobnkevinshow. Find the podcast anywhere that finer podcasts can be found!

Ep. 033 - Mark Zuckerberg Wants More Internet Regulation and Article 13 is now Article 17?

This week, your dynamic duo of Bob & Kevin discussed Mr. Z's 4 simple rules - or the biggest corporate cop out we have seen in quite some time. Anyway, we digress. In addition to discussing the op ed that appeared in the Washington Post, we discussed the recent events surround Article 13, or is it now Article 17? Anyway, we talk master copyright databases mixed in with a little bit of Star Trek governmental wisdom and we finally end up talking about Google's ethics committee for AI that apparently can't even sit at the same table with each other. As usual, you can find us on twitter as the @bobandkevinshow and we are instagram as @bobnkevinshow (not sure why they limit those characters... grrr) - drop us a line! You can also email the show directly at comments@bobandkevinshow.com. Thanks!

Ep. 032 - WTF: What the Facebook? Bob & Kevin discuss Facebook and their plain text password issues and Apple TV+

Join your favorite technology consumer advocates Bob & Kevin as they discuss Facebook giving us a real-time, Black Mirror prequel. Bob & Kevin also take a deep look at the "new monopoly" in tech, which is basically coming up with the most ubiquitous platform imaginable... hardware, software, original content... you know, what Apple is trying to become with the release of their fill in the blank plus original content platform. Oh, wow, guess what, this is also straight out of a potential Black Mirror prequel... have you seen 'Nosedive'? or watched our YouTube episode - https://youtu.be/wX-_GNGZXG8 ?

Like what you are hearing? Have a topic you want us to cover in an upcoming episode? Drop us a line at https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow

Until next week!

Bob & Kevin

Ep. 031 - Boeing Software Update and Parody Twitter Accounts - yes you @DevinCow

This week might be one of our darkest episodes - at least early on. Bob & Kevin discuss the difficult subject of software and the recent Boeing tragedies. Unfortunately, the darkness carried on a bit when we discussed the responsibilities of tech/social giants like YouTube and Facebook in the wake of the New Zealand tragedy.

On an odd turn of events, we were able to look toward TWITTER to lighten the mood of the episode... all we can say is MOOOOOO! We closed things out with discussions around the recent Facebook outage and if we should have the rights to repair our super expensive cell phones.

We covered a lot, but we had some fun. Let us know if you liked what you heard! Hit us up at https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow 

Thanks,

Bob & Kevin

Ep. 030 - Ethics of encryption backdoors and Joe Rogan Experience recap with Jack Dorsey, Vijaya Gadde & Tim Pool

Well, in this week's episode, Bob & Kevin kick things off discussing a recent Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode with Jack Dorsey, Vijaya Gadde & Tim Pool because, well, it was an amazing cast on an amazing show. The funny thing is, when we listen to shows like that, we get a TON of validation of our topics for discussion. At about the midway point... we actually broke into the INTENDED topic for the show - encryption backdoors... and the ethics of such things!

The conversation was kicked off by a published paper that Kevin found online and our on-going debate about tech and ethical choices. The paper can be found here: https://digitalcommons.spu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1062&context=honorsprojects and the discussion is in the audio file attached with this episode... so what are you waiting for? Hit the play button already!

Ep. 029 - All In, Baby! Rapid fire role reversal and more - call for interns!

So, apparently Apple doesn't like episode numbers in titles any more... a topic for another episode for sure. In this non-numbered episode (sure we will play the game), Bob & Kevin switch roles and come up with some of the best audio quality to date (what took us so long?). Kevin drives the conversation with some difficult questions for angry Bob to deal with. Oh and we send out a call for interns - wanna work with two crazy old dudes that hate the idea of folding screen phones? Then you need to intern with the B&K Show! Hit us up on our tweeters, yo! https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow

Ep. 028 - Flat Earth

Well, it has been a minute, as the kids say, but Bob & Kevin are back at it with a fun new episode where we discuss about the control of truth, various conspiracies and how social media contributes. We discuss the roles that big social play in the spread of mis- and dis-information and the potential personal implications of our own social media accounts in the process!

Ep. 027 - When is the correct time to upgrade?

We feel like this question might be as old as time itself - When do you upgrade to the latest and "greatest" version? And we are not just talking about software! Where are you on the adoption spectrum? Early adopter? Laggard? We discuss the various upgrade strategies they have witnessed in nearly a million years of being in tech. We also take a look into the release early and release often strategies that more and more companies are adopting and question which ones can get away with that, and which ones might be hurting their reputations in the market. Feel free to leave us some comments on social media @bobandkevinshow and let us know what you want to hear more of on upcoming episodes.

Ep. 026 - Suzanne Somers for 500 Please

Oh, boy... naming this episode was so TOUGH! We had quite a few discussions that contained some very interesting analogies and comparisons... so name options were abundant! Long time followers of the program will know that this is typically the time of year where we cover the CES show, and we did not stray from that topic this week. We discussed how some of the new tech is not all that new (big shock) about 4k and now 8k video (ugh) and how the XPS laptop camera is finally where all the other webcams of the world are positioned on laptops. Oh, and you know we rip on facebook, google, amazon and the other tech giants. We also discuss this new piece of exercise gear - https://www.mirror.co/

Ep. 025 - Happy New Year From Bob & Kevin

Yup, you guessed it! a year in review and a look ahead episode all wrapped into one! Bob & Kevin take a look back on all the tech ugliness of 2018 and take a glimpse ahead into what 2019 may hold. We set some personal and show based goals... oh, and Kevin chose a coffee shop for his recording location... good times! Let us know what you want to hear more of in 2019 - because you can't get rid of us that easily!!!!

Ep. 024 - The gender dropdown discussion

I wish we could say we were sorry for the click bait, but one of the topics we covered tonight was the dropdown menu for gender. You will have to listen to the episode to hear how we covered it, but trust us... it is something worthy of discussion. We also discussed how our combined journalistic talents are on par with the rest of the world of tech news, in our humble opinions... LOL

As always, give it a listen and let us know what you think! Until next week...

Ep. 023 - The Bob & Kevin Show weight loss challenge

In episode 23, Bob & Kevin discuss a weight loss challenge they have created together and the technology that each of them will use to achieve their goals! They discussed My Fitness Pal and some other apps along the way. You will have to listen to the episode to get the details of the challenge, the rewards, and the penalties! We also discussed Amazon HQ 2.0 and signalR technology.

Ep. 022 - Bob & Kevin catch up and cover all the random topics

We jump back into it this week after both of us have been crazy at work, traveling all over, and just dealing with everything that life has been throwing at the two of us the past couple of weeks. Don't worry, we still talk about twitter and facebook... we even discuss the new facebook video calling thingy??? What the heck is that all about anyway. Not gonna lie, we are both a little out of practice and we even forgot to really start AND end the episode... so, we hope you enjoy this completely raw and barely edited, very special episode. As always, feel free to hit us up on twitter (https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow) and let us know what you think of the episode. Have a great week!

Ep. 021 - Remote work habits - good, bad and ugly

This episode could be title true confessions of a remote worker... but we thought that was a bit too click bait-ish... who are we kidding... We just thought of it as we were uploading the episode and the artwork was already done! Anyway, in this episode, our two courageous hosts give us a glimpse into the real life struggles of remote work in the 21st century. Frightening tales of killer chairs, bare feet, shower schedules and so much more. We really enjoyed this episode, because it is just another shining example of how two close friends can be completely different human beings.

Ep. 020 - Bob & Kevin talk tech with self-produced rockstar and application developer Richard Terris

Richard Terris joins B&K from Glassgow to talk about producing an album and things that developers can do to fill their free-time. We talk travel, music, art and a little bit of the new Apple tech that was announced a couple weeks back. I hope you enjoy this one as much as we did recording it. You can check out Richards website at https://wailingrecluse.com/ and have a listen to a live cut from his album at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRPc2oWmKQ which we also feature in this episode. Enjoy!

Ep. 019 - How much privacy do our browsers really give us, and are there alternatives?

Yup, we talked about browsers tonight... something along the lines of browser wars version 3.0. Apparently firefox is coming out with a new version that blocks all tracking out of the box... then we find out that a browser called Brave also already does this out of the box! Kevin talked about a chrome plugin that lets you pick which scripts to block and Bob worried about what all this new browser stuff will do to his robust event tracking in google analytics. We also talked a bit about the social media hearings on the Hill today and what this all means for the future of truth in our worlds... tune in and let us know what you think!